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Empowering Inclusive Practices with Dr. Dina Brulles

Empowering Inclusive Practices with Dr. Dina Brulles

Empowering Inclusive Practices with Dr. Dina Brulles

Dina Brulles is a leader in gifted education, serving as the Gifted Program Coordinator at Arizona State University and a co-author of the Naglieri General Ability Tests. She’s held key leadership roles at the National Association for Gifted Children and has mentored in the Javits Frasier Scholarship Program since 2010.

In this episode, we dive into key topics like identification, DOK framework, cluster grouping, and collaborative learning—offering valuable insights for teachers, parents, and anyone interested in gifted education.

Dina’s contributions have earned her multiple NAGC awards, including the 2022 Anne Isaacs Award for Distinguished Service and the 2019 & 2020 Book of the Year Awards.

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Rethinking Intelligence with Dr. Jack Naglieri

Empowering Inclusive Practices with Dr. Dina Brulles

Empowering Inclusive Practices with Dr. Dina Brulles

In this episode, Dr. Jack Naglieri discusses intelligence testing and the need for more equitable assessments. He explains how traditional tests often measure accumulated knowledge rather than cognitive ability. Dr. Naglieri introduces the Naglieri General Ability Test and the Cognitive Assessment System (PASS), which focus on measuring thinking processes—Planning, Attention, Simultaneous, and Successive—to provide a fairer evaluation of intelligence. 


He shares how these tools help educators better understand and support diverse learners. The conversation highlights his award-winning work and its impact on reshaping intelligence assessment in education.

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The Neurodiversity Podcast

Dr. Jack Naglieri joins Emily Kircher-Morris for a conversation about Thinking versus Knowing

Emily Kircher-Morris, host of the Neurodiversity Podcast, discusses with Dr. Naglieri the evolution and misconceptions of intelligence assessment. They explore its history, emphasizing limitations and biases. Dr. Naglieri shares how his experiences led him to develop nonverbal assessment tools, aiming to measure thinking rather than knowledge for a more equitable approach.


The Neurodiversity Podcast features discussions with neurodivergent individuals and experts in psychology, education, and other fields.

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